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How to live free and use LINUX!
« on: August 24, 2009, 11:03:59 AM »
To reply to VincentFirePony question on how to become a Linux user, I thought it wise to start a separate thread to answer.
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Many people think that Linux is difficult and wont work with my scanner/printer/camera/Internet/ ect. Nothing could be more wrong. In fact Ubuntu (which is the best Linux-distribution for beginners) is far easier to install than windows. Furthermore, Linux represents everything that is good and beautiful in the world.  :eeeee:

I switched from a life in ms-dos and windows (win 3.11, win 95, win xp) a year ago and I'm still surprised at how simple everything is, and yet, how everything can be changed to fit my every desire and need (if you’re still in windows you don’t yet know what these freedoms are; how do you explain a rainbow to a dog? Or music to the deaf?).

OK, I might seem a bit fanatical, but the main difference between the two is that Linux just works.

To use Linux or just to try it out simply download the LiveCD of Ubuntu and restart your computer with the CD in the drive. It will start Ubuntu from the CD and you can try it out without actually installing it. If you like it you can simply choose the “Install Ubuntu” option. If you don't, simply remove the CD and reboot.

http://www.ubuntu.com/

Now if you like to dual boot* with windows you can read the instructions here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot

*Dual boot = when you start your computer you get a few second to choose which OS you want to start, if no choice is made the default will start.

Did I mention that on the CD you get a complete OS with Open Office (=Microsoft Office), Firefox, GIMP (=Adobe Photoshop), a music player, torrent client, Tetris (this is a must-have), and a lot more!

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 12:26:08 PM »
I'd just like to add that you should definitely backup all important files before installing Ubuntu and that it's probably wise to install as dual boot first - not all Windows programs have alternatives in Ubuntu or can be run with WINE.

I'm personally dual booting Ubuntu and Windows XP. I'm absolutely loving Ubuntu, though it did take a while to get to learn how things are done, as even though some things are very similar other things are very different.

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 04:45:06 PM »
I just perused a thread abt one of the guys having trouble installing ascii sector on his Unbuntu. From the advice you all gave him its seems that Linux is like... I can't think of a word to use, but it almost seems daunting a bit. I;ll still try it out I have to run home between classes and get my laptop :pinch: hoping you guys will have replied. (hopefully to both threads, still need to find out whats wrong with my scripting on my quest)

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 12:05:28 AM »
Wow a 2 hour download? Lol... Well we'll see how it goes... I'll most likely do the dual boot but must get cd-roms...
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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 12:53:36 AM »
Not on broadband, eh? ;)

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2009, 01:02:51 AM »
Lol nope,  I've got an ancient (but free :D ) laptop and a plug in wireless card. Unbuntu is kind of like writing a quest isn't it?
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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2009, 11:42:17 PM »
And Cthulhu what is VIM? You mentioned it in the other thread abt the syntax highlighting.

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 12:59:22 AM »
Now I came across Xubuntu. Is that like an Ubuntu lite?
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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 02:01:35 AM »
There are multiple flavors of Ubuntu available. Each one has pros and cons.

Ubuntu: Standard flavor with Gnome as the desktop manager
Kubuntu: Ubuntu with KDE as desktop manager (amazing look for the desktop)
Xubuntu: Ubuntu with XFCE as desktop manager (great for older machines)

In case you are wondering, in the Linux world, the desktop manager (and there are MANY) is the part of the OS that gives you the GUI with its bells and whistles like transparent windows, maximizing/minimizing of windows, etc.

Download each one and burn them to CDs and boot your machine. the LIVE CD will allow you to try before you install. I have used all 3 and enjoy the experience of all.

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 02:55:14 PM »
First off, to answer vincentasguest question: VIM is a highly configurable editor used for programming and perhaps also for writing quest scripts in the future...?

SOME USEFUL LINKS
As a continuation of my first post I've gathered a list of useful online documents, that I myself find very useful when I have questions about how to do things in Linux:

Your first stop should be at the community documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community.

There's also a number of Ubuntu forums in several different languages, where you can ask questions. The biggest is http://ubuntuforums.org/. Search through the archives before posting a question, since it most likely, already has been answered.  

There are some pretty good blogs and tutorials out there, like Ubuntu Linux Resources and Linux Owns. Or embraceubuntu, howto-ubuntu, and synapticism

When you feel like learning to write scripts, I'd recommend reading the first part of this short introduction.

Part of what I like with Linux is that I can get it to look any way I want it to. You can look and download some really nice themes at http://www.gnome-look.org/, http://www.kde-look.org/ and http://www.xfce-look.org/.

I'd recommend this nice collection of "50-best-looking-linux-gnomeubuntu-themes" or just get inspired from these nice screen shots from the Gentoo homepage.

(While I'm still on the subject of eye candy, I know a lot of people like "the cube" (not the movie, although it's a good one). What I'm talking about is Compiz Fusion, it works excellent with both Gnome, Kde, and Xfce. Download it the usual way, by using synaptic or apt-get. It's in the repository.)

When you feel OK with Gnome/Kde/Xfce, and want to go further
If you're interested in a VERY lite GUI you should have a look at the *Box window managers, such as OpenBox, FluxBox, WindowMaker, IceWm, enlightenment(e17), etc. There are themes for these at http://www.box-look.org/.

I like urukramas blog that has some nice tutorials and comparisons between the different Window managers.

I myself use FluxBox on top of a Gnome desktop environment. This uses a total of 120 MB of memory. FluxBox is very easy to configure (unlike OpenBox), but my advice is to first get accustomed to Linux/Ubuntu in general, before switching to a *Boxed window manager. Also, there is a difference between desktop environments (such as Gnome, KDE, Xfce) that gives you a complete working desktop, ready to use, with window manager to draw the windows (such as Metacity in Gnome) and a panel with menus at the bottom of the desktop (or at the top or both), and programs for mail, writhing, drawing, calculating; and just a Window Manager that just manages the windows.

If you want to use a window manager that doesn't come with a desktop environment, you need to manually put something together to replace the old one, if you still want the same functions. Let's say you like the look of OpenBox, now you need to choose a program to draw a nice desktop background, and a program to automatically detect USB-memory sticks, and something to manage your clipboard, and perhaps have a panel at the bottom where all your opened windows appears as icons.

This will probably sound more difficult than it actually is, but if you find something that you like, go to the wiki and there's bound to be some good basic tutorials.

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 10:20:28 PM »
Wow... That's a ton of info... Thanks btw... I downloaded ubuntu 9.04 I think? made the live cd but I can't get it to do the trial run of Ubuntu, I'm trying to get Xubuntu cause my laptop is OLD, but that takes forever... lol...
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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2009, 01:19:01 AM »
You could try downloading Ubuntu 8.04. That's the one I've been using for a while now. According to the ubuntuforums it seems to work better with most systems than 9.04.

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2009, 06:21:35 AM »
I'm a bit intrested but, if I try it out and my dad finds out he's probably going to go a bit apeshit over it.(Were talking about a guy who is as much as a nerd as I but, thinks IE is better)
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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2009, 11:43:39 AM »
Can't you persuade your old man to dual boot? Isn't there like a UN Human Rights thing about basic freedoms and dual booting?
One OS each, that's fair, right.

When I tried out Kbuntu 8.10, I did something strange when burning the CD so it didn't boot from it, but I could start it from windows. There is an option to "boot from cd" and somehow I got it to work that way. (There is a menu on the CD that you can start from Windows.)

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Re: How to live free and use LINUX!
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2009, 10:42:48 PM »
Lol I am the old man. Ok I downloaded xUbuntu so far as I know I successfully wrote the image onto a CD-R using the suggested program infra Recorder (immediately got rid of the CD Burner program this laptop came with) did the trial, then used Wubi to install. I got the dual boot selection, selected xUbuntu then a screen flashed saying something abt Error Firmware and b43 something something... then the desktop came up and a window popped up that said no root file system. Now I'm lost... HELP!
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